Sunday, June 28, 2009

Early ATVs were 3 wheelers

The  ATV has a 40 years history and the first twenty years were dominated by three wheelers. The early ATV history can as well be called history of Honda  ATVs   as  other manufacturers who joined the game more than ten years later.

 The 1960s: Prototyping the ATC.  
 
If necessity was the mother of the first ATV, Honda engineer Osamu Takeuchi was its father. In 1967,American Honda asked  Honda R&D Ltd. for a new product dealers could sell when motorcycle sales cooled off in the winter.

Forget the proverbial blank sheet of paper. Takeuchi started in the shop with a head full of ideas and an eclectic assortment of components. Two, three, four, five and even six-wheeled configurations were examined, but the three-wheel concept delivered the best combination for the machine's intended mission. It dealt with snow, mud and assorted slippery conditions a two-wheeler couldn't, while providing more maneuverability than other configurations.

 
 In the early stages, a Honda ST70 motorcycle gave up its 70cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine for the cause, along with assorted chassis parts... The biggest challenge would be finding a tire capable of getting a grip on soft, changeable terrain such as snow, sand and mud. Two wheels, three wheels, four wheels or more? Motorcycle tires weren't an option.

 
The design process quickened when Takeuchi received an American invention called the "Amphi-Cat? that rolled on six 20-inch low-pressure, high-flotation balloon tires. The light bulb went on. Revamping his ST70-based prototype to accept the new low-pressure rolling stock, he went to work on his own tire design, ending up with a 22-inch design inflated to 2.2 psi. With the tire dilemma solved, the 70cc engine lacked the muscle necessary to push a full-sized rider through snow or mud. A 90cc engine running through a special dual-range four-speed gearbox added the requisite flexibility over varied terrain.
 
The next phase of development was optimizing the chassis to match the new engine and tires. Testing over rough roads, sand hills and slopes as steep as 35-degrees gradually established chassis dimensions effective for recreational riding as well as agricultural work. Laid out in the shape of an isosceles triangle with the footpegs located outside the triangle to optimize control, the ATC design was unique enough to let Takeuchi patent the arrangement.

Exhaustive testing brought other lessons to light as well. Using a thumb throttle instead of the typical motorcycle twist grip let riders shift their weight for optimal vehicle maneuverability while maintaining precise throttle control. A rear differential was considered, but discarded when a live axle performed better. Though suspension is an integral part of the modern ATV, Takeuchi's original balloon tires soaked up rough terrain best by themselves. Exerting less pressure on soft or sensitive terrain than the average human foot, those tires let the vehicle go places others couldn't, leaving little or no evidence of their passing--an advantage that looms large in hundreds of modern ATV applications.


The 1970s: The World's First ATC

Officially introduced to America in 1970, the US 90 sent its 7 horsepower through a dual-range four-speed gearbox with automatic clutch, and sold for $595. It was renamed the ATC90 later that year as Honda trademarked the ATC name. The ATC70 gave younger riders a scaled-down version of the fat-tire experience. And by the end of the decade, requests for more power turned the original ATC90 into the ATC110 in 1979. The ATC was as evolutionary as it was revolutionary from the beginning.


Though it was primarily a recreational vehicle through the '70s, farmers were beginning to see the ATC as a tool to make their lives easier. Engineers followed their machines into the field, gathering data to guide the machine's natural adaptation to a rapidly growing market. The ATC was as capable at labor as at leisure, and America was catching on.

  Moving into the '80s, the two arenas looming largest in the ATV lexicon were utility Introduced in 1980, the ATC185 was popular among utility users. Rolling on larger, 25-inch tires that afforded improved traction, the 185 featured a five-speed transmission and automatic clutch and a 180cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine that was considerably more powerful as well. Though designed to split its duties more or less equally between work and play, the 185 set the stage for Honda's first purpose-built utility ATV two years later.



The 1982 ATC200E, a.k.a. "Big Red", had more of everything necessary to get a host of jobs done. Its 192cc engine and five-speed dual-range gearbox cranked out more power, especially low in the rev band, to make chores such as towing, spraying, seeding and fertilizing easier. An electric starter in addition to the standard recoil system made starting the day as easy as pushing a button. Dual racks and a 9.2-liter storage box made carrying tools, hay bales, fencing and other agricultural essentials easier. A new sealed rear drum brake survived the muddy fields and water crossings, and telescopic fork front suspension made a day in the saddle that much more comfortable. Big Red added a reverse gear in 1984, and its drive chain was replaced with shaft drive for extra durability and less maintenance.

 
Yamaha, Suzuki & Kawasaki started ATV manufacture around 1980. In 1982, Suzuki took the lead in the hot new market for all-terrain vehicles by introducing the first four-wheel ATV and other companies followed it.  Interesting fact is Honda had the patent on three-wheelers. So Suzuki was challenged to think outside the box. Its chief designer Aki Goto took this as a challenge and result was first four wheeler ATV.

Later the safety factors made all companies to shift to four wheel ATVs   and  3-wheel models ended production in 1987

Saturday, June 27, 2009

Black sheep among ATV dealers.

I am keen that ATVs becomes popular in India and be within reach of those in real need of it. Without having reason to suspect I faithfully entered the information about these ATVs in my blog yesterday. I did notice from their website that these Force ATVs are sold only in non traditional market. They are absent in leading markets like USA, Canada, Australia and England, which are English speaking countries.

After that this interesting posting was bought to my notice yesterday. It appeared to me like in kannada fable Pumpkin stealer touched his shoulder ( to see if there is some growth) Anyway I went thru the matter and pasting the whole matter here colouring  it   purple. My opinion   to the points raised   are at bottom in blue colour.

http://www.adeex.in/used-cars-motos/more-ads/beware-of-fraud-atv-dealers

Don't be fooled by people who claim to be ATV dealers but do not have the proven record of their "sales". With the ever increasing of the popularity of ATV, it is not surprising that everyone is eager to make a profit out of ATV sales. There will be a couple of individuals or organizations that are out to make victims out of Innocent, ignorant first time ATV buyers. So, if you are one of those people who are looking to buy a ATV for the first time, I suggest that you buy a good machine and with warranty and spare part after sale.
When you Buy ATV kindly surf the web-site to know more about ATV.
In India only Chinese ATV are available in the market. These ATVs are sold at a very high price almost 4 times the price of the actual cost. They last only for 3 months.

If you are looking to buy a ATV for the first time,
1. Ask for the company and the manufacturers web-site,
2. Check out with the company web-site and know the price and quality of the ATV.
3. I request you to kindly ask the seller to provide you a document stating that he shall supply spare parts for 5 years. Most of the dealers promise to supply spare parts and when asked they say it is not in stock, we have faced out this model, you have to buy the full unit.
4. Kindly ask for Warranty and full bill for the product.


This party also maybe selling China made machines with Taiwan label. . The company name may not be revealed by some traders as that is part of trade secret. Some dealers are not hiding the source country

Selling ATV is not charity. That is for profit. Sales could be far apart and establishment expenses are not negligible. So there has to be considerable profit.

It is not essential that Chinese machines fall apart in three months. This generalization about China machines makes you feel writer is your well-wisher. I have been using for past two years without serious problems.

I have made clear in my early posting that the ATV manufacture is decentralized in China and there are many companies existing only in website. So this wisdom of website checking is not much meaningful.

The intention of this posting is to make you feel uneasy and jumpy. The gentleman who posted this fails to tell us his track record. There is no indication about his offer. It may be safe to keep away.

Friday, June 26, 2009

Another ATV Supplier in South

It appears like there is another supplier for ATVs in South India 
www.powerwheelsindia.com are located in hilly regions of Tamilanadu at Yercad.  They claims that they source their products from                                                  http://www.newforcemotor.com.tw/.

It looks like they have ATVs  for sale 150 cc  for INR 200 K and 250cc  for INR 250 K. It is not clear to me  if they have a consignment here or just samples.


These CVT driven machines are okay for experienced people but for beginner I feel geared ones are ideal. We don’t start two wheelers with BULLET.


It is nice that our people have more options. It was better if most are from same source and similar design. Then servicing becomes easier. Hope they have good business and satisfied customers over there.

Tuesday, June 9, 2009

BAJA 2009 @ Indore

                                                                                                    photo:www.overdrive.in/

The Second edition of BAJA SAE INDIA was held from Jan 30th to Feb 2nd 2009 at NATRAX (National Automobile Test Tracks) facility in Peethampur, Indore.

Though this was only the second edition in India, already the number of competing institutes has vaulted from 27 to fifty-eight teams from around the country consisting of One thousand two hundred students backed by fifteen sponsors.

The competition was maddening and after the immense success of the 2007 event, a mammoth 108 teams had applied for a spot for the 2009 event. The long list of teams had gone through a rigorous telephonic interview and Dr Karuppaiah and his team had filtered out only the best of the best and finally 58 teams were left in the field. .

For the 2009 event however, Lombardini has provided a bigger 340cc engine with 11hp The gearboxes are from Mahindra Alfa 3 wheeler. The petrol-engined buggies ran on fuel supplied by Bharat Petroleum, and since all these are provided free of cost to the students, it helps to keep costs in check.

This is as real an engineering challenge these budding engineers will probably face in their entire career, since the challenge is to design, build and finally race a ground-up design.

Only if the teams satisfy the judges in all the static and dynamic criteria, are they allowed to participate in the final race. This is the big one, and while speed is important, the focus is on reliability. The drivers have to negotiate an arduous course with a number of challenges, including a water trough, whoop-de-dos and a metal trap. The event was scheduled to run for three hours, but was shortened by 30 minutes for logistical reasons. Nevertheless, this was enough to gauge the capability of the buggies.

While IIT Mumbai led the early part of the race, it stopped with a broken drive shaft on the second lap, handing the lead to AISSMS from Pune, which lost out with a lengthy refuelling stop. Thus, the team from Sant Longewal College, near Patiala, shot into the lead. It was a case of strong reliability and a strong drive from the midfield. Equally impressive was the team from Punjab Engineering College, which started even further back but drove hard throughout to finish a close second.

With over Rs 31 lakh in prize money, there was indeed strong motivation for the teams, and the organizers have the right idea to encourage the teams to think innovatively and design fast and reliable buggies. Many sponsors had placement cells at the show. They conducted interviews and gave appointment letters to over 60 students.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz8-TaRmn4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yi2GmfOS_Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcJMPpa6Lnc&feature=related

Friday, June 5, 2009

ATV accident kills 84 year old rider

Handling  ATV  looks  deceptively  simple.  Safe  operation  needs   both  strength  and  effort.  A  84 year  old  man  was  killed yesterday    when  his  ATV  toppled over while taking a turn in   America.  

He was attempting to turn right onto a dirt road when he overshot the road and went off the other side, the Police said. ATV tends to be reluctant to turn in hard surface in absence of differential.  So poor judgment of speed and centrifugal force could be the reason.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090604/ARTICLES/906049909?Title=ATV-accident-kills-Potter-Valley-man

Thursday, June 4, 2009

ATV carrying grass fodder in a Indian farm

Here is a video of my ATV carrying fodder grass.  It was shot  with a still digital camera  about  one and half year back   and  the  clarity is  just viewable. It gives some indication  how  ATV  can be useful in a farm.

Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Why ATV's are better than men


This  is   a  interesting   topic  found  in  a  women’s  page.    
Most lines have different meanings and are witty.   
Over   to   offroadgirls.  

An ATV can go for more than one ride in an hour.
ATV's never develop spare tires.
ATV's don't get you pregnant.
An ATV doesn't care what time of month it is.
ATV's don't have parents.
Your ATV will let you know if something is wrong.
Your ATV won't judge your friends.
If your ATV is boisterous, you can buy a muffler.
If your ATV smokes you can do something about it.
ATV's don't care about how many other ATVs you have ridden.
When riding, you and your ATV both arrive at the same time.
One ATV will satisfy you every time.
If your ATV has high mileage, you can just get a new one.
ATVs don't care about breast size.
If your ATV is too soft you can get new shocks.
You don't have to drink beer before your ATV looks appealing.
You can be proud of your ATV regardless of the model.
You can ride a ATV as long as you want and it won't get limp.
ATVs always feel like going for a ride when you do.
ATVs don't insult you if you are a novice.
Your ATV never wants a night out alone with the other ATVs.
ATVs don't make you late.
You don't have to primp before riding your ATV.
Your ATV won't complain when you use protection.
If your ATV doesn't look good, you can paint it or get better parts.
Your ATV won't care if you fake it.
ATVs are always ready to stop when you are.
Your ATV has a built in vibrator.
Your ATV doesn't care how heavy you are.
Your ATV won't shrink when it's cold.
If your ATV can't fire up, you can just replace the battery.
You don't have to cook for your ATV.
Your ATV can't ride around behind your back.
If your ATV is cold you can choke it.
You only have to ride your ATV when you want to.
Your ATV won't go for rides by itself.
ATVs don't snore.

Tuesday, June 2, 2009

BAJA 2007

Baja SAE India, an association of automotive majors organized the maiden BAJA 2007 contest from 21-23 December 2007 in NATRIP, Pithampur, Madhya Pradesh. The event is modeled on the globally popular student competition Mini BAJA which is held every year in five more countries across the globe. Kelinja Venkatagirish read about a participating team NITK, Surathkal in Hindu and sent me the hint.  

BAJA 2007 was sponsored by automotive majors like Mahindra and Mahindra, Ford, Lombardini, JK Tyres, Speed and various automotive bigshots. It involves engineering students to design and build an ALL TERRAIN VEHICLE that endures a severe punishment of rough terrain while competing against teams across the country.

Each team must start from scratch to design and fabricate an ATV based on specific dimensions, budget and other details provided by SAE India. The event provides selected teams a platform to showcase their engineering skills where their capabilities for team work, entrepreneurship, leadership and management will be gauged.

To maintain a level playing field, the teams have been provided with standard engines and gearboxes. The engines for the 2007 event were of 280cc type producing 9hp provided by Lombardini free of cost to the teams. The gearboxes are from Mahindra Alfa 3 wheeler, again provided free of cost.

The inaugural version saw participation from 27 Colleges from all over India with College of Engineering, Pune securing the top spot and was closely followed by NITK, Surathkal . All this was coordinated by Dr. K.C.Vora of ARAI, Pune.

The detailed commentary of the event is available at http://www.overdrive.in/story-articles-features/bajaj_sae_india_2007-3651-0.html
http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/02/stories/2007120259610300.htm
http://www.bajasaeindia.org/

Monday, June 1, 2009

An ATV showroom in Bangalore

I happened to find some photographs of a ATV dealership in Bangalore. They sell Polaris ATVs and some of them are Taiwan made products for American brand.  The photos were placed in forum eighteen month back  in Dec 2007 and there are more photos in the link.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/super-cars-imports-india/9293-supercars-imports-bangalore-85.html


It appears like smallest 50 cc model used to cost 1.5 lakhs and they have models that cost 10 lakhs too.  With CVT they consume  more fuel.  Quality could be good but how often it will be ridden  after paying so much  is still a question mark.

Two more players  as I know  are active in Bangalore market selling cheaper Taiwan and  China made ATVs.